Crosspicking With The Wrist

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00:00:03

Intro

 

00:02:16

Supinated Improv Tk1

 

00:25:58

Two O'Clock Pickslant Tk1

 

00:28:32

Two O'Clock Pickslant Tk2

 

00:34:29

902 Crosspick Moderate

 

00:44:14

1003 Crosspick Tk1

 

00:44:24

Pronated Improv

 

00:49:32

String vs Rolls 1003

 

00:57:29

Thumb Control Straight

 

00:57:35

Thumb Control Press

 

00:57:50

Thumb Control Straight vs Press Tk1

 

00:58:14

Thumb Control Straight vs Press Tk2

 

01:02:32

902 Crosspick Motions

 

01:03:19

902 Crosspick Easy

 

01:04:07

Supinated Improv Tk2

 

01:05:15

Forward Roll Variations Easy

 

01:05:52

Forward Roll Easy

 

01:07:17

Forward Roll Moderate

 

01:07:42

tommo

Hey there, Tommo from the forum here :-) Troy, when figuring out crosspicking did you also have an initial period when it was "mini-strums" as opposed to accurate single notes? Or did you try to clear strings at all times? (As Andy Wood demonstrated in a live broadcast some time ago, and as we briefly discussed on the forum). Thanks a lot and you guys rock!

 

01:09:15

Inside vs Outside Tk1

 

01:10:57

Forward Roll Fast

 

01:11:54

String vs Roll Easy

 

01:12:27

String vs Roll Tk1

 

01:12:49

Forward vs Backward

 

01:13:57

Fours Ascending Tk1

 

01:15:46

Fours Ascending Tk2

 

01:16:01

Broken Roll Tk1

 

01:17:08

Broken Roll Tk2

 

01:17:20

Broken Roll Easy

 

01:17:32

Broken Roll Variations

 

01:18:18

Daydreams in D

 

01:18:45

Daydream Variation

 

01:21:46

Pronated Left and Right

 

01:22:13

Pronated More Edge

 

01:22:46

Pronated Etude

 

01:24:32

Supinated Etude

 

01:24:49

shredDon

Alternating quickly between two strings feels different and more challenging for some reason. When I try to do it quickly to get the feel of the movement, it devolves into messing strumming. Just wondering if you have any insight on this. Thanks, Troy -- great broadcast!

 

01:25:18

String vs Roll Tk2

 

01:25:32

Inside vs Outside Tk2

 

01:26:42

String vs Roll Tk3

 

01:26:57

JonJackGrant

Not a question - just to say before I bale out from south coast of uk - Brilliant stuff, and a great analysis. Love that you do the "underlying principles with many ways to solve the problem" I'll be staying after the summer trial. Thanks troy

 

01:27:57

mr_fisch93

I'd be interested to the 4 note roll, a la Tumeni notes, my movement for this is at speed and relaxed but there is some "bounce". Do you think some "bounce" is ok since there is wrist extension in one half of the movement?

 

01:28:25

Fours Rolling

 

01:30:09

Fours Ascending Tk3

 

01:30:49

Fours Ascending Easy

 

01:31:35

DirtyPower

Is the change in forearm slant independent of the pick slant or does the forearm slant affect the pick slant?

 

01:32:08

Pronated vs Supinated

 

01:32:41

Edge Picking Dark vs Bright

 

01:33:42

Frylock

Do you think there is any difference in level of "string tracking" difficulty between the Andy setup and the Molly setup?

 

01:34:48

Ripple Threes Easy

 

01:34:51

Ripple Threes Improv

 

01:35:16

Ripple Threes

 

01:35:32

Ripple Threes By Strings

 

01:36:34

Beaumont Bass Tk1

 

01:36:45

Beaumont Bass Tk2

 

01:37:14

Beaumont Roll

 

01:38:22

Lagune

Would be great if you could review exactly what crosspicking is and how it differs from other picking styles

 

01:38:38

JustAGuitarPlayer

It looks like your pick is at much more of a diagonal to the strings than Andy's or David Griers. I guess the term is edge picking. I remember Andy said he is doing edge picking (in his case and perhaps in most peoples case, striking the string with the left edge of the pick as opposed to flat). But I'm wondering if you changed your angle to a slightly flatter attack, which is more of what they're doing if all the dart thrower analogies would be the same.

 

01:39:48

Walking Bass Rolls

 

01:40:17

JustAGuitarPlayer

Someone asked for what your definition is of cross picking. I'm wondering that too. I can say that for sure in the bluegrass world, crosspicking is the term bluegrass guitar and mandolin players use for what you're calling a forward roll pattern. David Grier is a master of it, Doc Watson, Clarence White, Molly Tuttle, Carl Miner are all great at it too. The second half of the bluegrass tune Beaumont Rag makes use of what bluegrass players consider Crosspicking. You have a clip called Beaumont rolls on the Carl Miner interview, those are what bluegrassers would call crosspicking patterns. Tony Rice is one guy who does 2 downstrokes followed by an upstroke on his 3 note cross picking patterns.

 

01:42:59

DirtyPower

Any preference of "ski slope" for Petrucci's Glass Prison solo?

 

01:44:20

blueshinstuschen

Is it fair to consider Andy Wood (supinated crosspicking 902) analogous to a DWPSer, and David Grier/Molly Tuttle (pronated crosspicking 103) analogous to an UWPSer?

 

01:44:58

Two O'Clock Shred

 

01:45:05

Two O'Clock Shred Easy

 

01:45:54

DrLunchbox

Does the thumb (the part holding the pick, not the heel) rotate through the picking motion?

 

01:47:12

Fakepeninsula

So Andys position is closer to Albert Lees?

 

01:47:39

Morse 7012 Motion

 

01:47:49

Morse Ascending Fours

 

01:49:24

strum

Lately I've been thinking about the forward roll as 4 movements, where each movement is one down-up combination of strings. Is anyone else thinking about it like this?

 

01:50:33

Montreal543

HI Guys! How do you problem-solve mechanics when the aspiring cross-picker can achieve the “pendulum” pick path, but still hits a speed brick wall at 16th notes at 120 BPM?

 

01:52:15

hamsterman

Howdy Troy. For your X-picking form... can you elaborate on which mechanic(s) blend/transition to other mechanics... and if there are any mechanics that you use constantly through the entire stroke.

 

01:55:19

JustAGuitarPlayer

By the way, love your website. The videos (both angles) and interviews are all incredibly helpful and have caused me to rethink my technique after 42 years of playing. Very cool to see other peoples approaches. Thank you for what your bringing to the guitar education world.

 

01:56:14

DrLunchbox

One thing I've been wondering about, and it came up in the Molly Tuttle interview, is the transition from strumming to cross picking. For her it was automatic, but that doesn't seem to help much! Are there any strategies for transitioning from a strumming motion (esp. one that is mainly elbow-driven) to a wrist-driven cross picking technique?

 

1003 Crosspick Tk1

 

00:44:14

902 Crosspick Easy

 

01:03:19

902 Crosspick Moderate

 

00:34:29

902 Crosspick Motions

 

01:02:32

Beaumont Bass Tk1

 

01:36:34

Beaumont Bass Tk2

 

01:36:45

Beaumont Roll

 

01:37:14

Broken Roll Easy

 

01:17:20

Broken Roll Tk1

 

01:16:01

Broken Roll Tk2

 

01:17:08

Broken Roll Variations

 

01:17:32

Daydream Variation

 

01:18:45

Daydreams in D

 

01:18:18

Edge Picking Dark vs Bright

 

01:32:41

Forward Roll Easy

 

01:05:52

Forward Roll Fast

 

01:10:57

Forward Roll Moderate

 

01:07:17

Forward Roll Variations Easy

 

01:05:15

Forward vs Backward

 

01:12:49

Fours Ascending Easy

 

01:30:49

Fours Ascending Tk1

 

01:13:57

Fours Ascending Tk2

 

01:15:46

Fours Ascending Tk3

 

01:30:09

Fours Rolling

 

01:28:25

Inside vs Outside Tk1

 

01:09:15

Inside vs Outside Tk2

 

01:25:32

Intro

 

00:00:03

Morse 7012 Motion

 

01:47:39

Morse Ascending Fours

 

01:47:49

Pronated Etude

 

01:22:46

Pronated Improv

 

00:44:24

Pronated Left and Right

 

01:21:46

Pronated More Edge

 

01:22:13

Pronated vs Supinated

 

01:32:08

Ripple Threes

 

01:35:16

Ripple Threes By Strings

 

01:35:32

Ripple Threes Easy

 

01:34:48

Ripple Threes Improv

 

01:34:51

String vs Roll Easy

 

01:11:54

String vs Roll Tk1

 

01:12:27

String vs Roll Tk2

 

01:25:18

String vs Roll Tk3

 

01:26:42

String vs Rolls 1003

 

00:49:32

Supinated Etude

 

01:24:32

Supinated Improv Tk1

 

00:02:16

Supinated Improv Tk2

 

01:04:07

Thumb Control Press

 

00:57:35

Thumb Control Straight

 

00:57:29

Thumb Control Straight vs Press Tk1

 

00:57:50

Thumb Control Straight vs Press Tk2

 

00:58:14

Two O'Clock Pickslant Tk1

 

00:25:58

Two O'Clock Pickslant Tk2

 

00:28:32

Two O'Clock Shred

 

01:44:58

Two O'Clock Shred Easy

 

01:45:05

Walking Bass Rolls

 

01:39:48

We’ve spent a lot of time lately trying to figure out all the details of how crosspicking works. It’s a powerful technique — and there really isn’t just “one” of them! There are lots of combinatory motion mechanic possibilities, and an array of small variations that make important differences in how they all work.

In this broadcast, we’re going to look at the wrist-based approach used by players like Andy Wood, and outlined in one of recent popular forum threads here:

https://forum.troygrady.com/t/everything-you-need-to-know-about-crosspicking/

So loosen up your wrist deviation and flexion and extension movements, and get ready for some smooth-sounding arpeggio additions to your vocabulary!